Katja Grace

Katja Grace

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AI Impacts co-founder who surveys AI researchers about progress and risk and argues for pausing the development of AI much more capable than humans.

Bagaimana AI akan mengubah dunia?

Perubahan peradabanPerubahan bertahapDoomBloom
Posisi simulasiRentang interpretasi

Mendatar: pandangan Doom–Bloom yang ia ungkapkan. Ke atas: skala transformasi.

Doom–Bloom: 22 dari 100. Skala transformasi: 94 dari 100. Rentang interpretasi: 17 hingga 50 secara horizontal, 89 hingga 100 secara vertikal. Ini adalah koordinat interpretasi, bukan probabilitas kejadian.

P(doom) yang dinyatakan Katja Grace

≈50%

0%100%
“Well, it varies. I’d say maybe like 50 percent.”

AI “doom” in her discussion of the probability that current AI development destroys the world; endpoint not further defined (the host’s follow-up paraphrases it as human extinction)

314 - Guest: Katja Grace, AI Impact Researcher, part 2 · Jun 2026

Hal-hal yang menentukan pandangannya

Asumsi utama

But the route we are taking means creating new agents—“new guys”—that pursue goals, may become better than humans at nearly everything, and whose values we cannot inspect or reliably choose.
Jawaban 1

Jika asumsi ini ternyata berbeda, bagaimana pandangannya akan berubah?

Pertanyaan yang belum terjawab

The uncertainty is less about whether sufficiently advanced AI would be transformative than whether we build it, when, and whether humans remain meaningfully in control afterward.
Jawaban 2

Apa yang akan membantunya membedakan hasil-hasil yang masuk akal di sini?

Hal yang dapat mengubah pandangan mereka

A convincing way to inspect and reliably control advanced agents’ goals would change my view most—especially if it held up as systems became more capable and encountered unfamiliar situations.
Jawaban 4

Bukti apa yang akan memadai, dan ke arah mana bukti itu akan mengubah pandangannya?

Detail lebih lanjut

Manfaat yang diperkirakan

Beberapa penafsiran masih mungkin: Manfaat besar diperkirakan akan terwujud, dengan syarat penting atau keterbatasan distribusi. / Manfaat transformatif yang bernilai luas diperkirakan akan terwujud. / Manfaat yang terbatas atau hanya tersebar secara sempit diperkirakan akan terwujud.

67 / 100

Dampak kecilDampak transformatif

Rentang interpretasi 33 hingga 100 pada skala kualitatif.

Kerugian yang diperkirakan

Beberapa penafsiran masih mungkin: Kehilangan yang katastrofik atau tidak dapat dipulihkan merupakan unsur utama masa depan yang diperkirakan. / Kerugian parah atau meluas merupakan bagian yang berarti dari masa depan yang diperkirakan.

84 / 100

Dampak kecilDampak transformatif

Rentang interpretasi 67 hingga 100 pada skala kualitatif.

Pengaruh manusia

Pilihan manusia dapat mengarahkan ulang lintasan AI secara signifikan.

73 / 100

Sedikit pengaruhPengaruh kuat

Rentang interpretasi 50 hingga 75 pada skala kualitatif.

Kemampuan yang diperkirakan

AI diperkirakan akan tetap menjadi alat dengan kemampuan terbatas.

AI diperkirakan akan menyamai manusia dalam sebagian besar pekerjaan kognitif.

Posisi simulasi: AI diperkirakan akan jauh melampaui manusia dalam berbagai pekerjaan kognitif.

Laju pengembangan

Posisi simulasi: Hentikan atau perlambat secara signifikan pengembangan AI yang lebih mampu.

Lanjutkan pengembangan dengan perlindungan yang telah ditetapkan.

Percepat pengembangan AI yang lebih mampu.

Interpretasi ini mempertahankan kondisi yang dinyatakannya. Manfaat dan kerugian dapat sama-sama besar. Rentang tersebut menggambarkan cara kami membaca jawaban simulasinya, bukan interval kepercayaan statistik.

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Penilaian Simulasi

Pertanyaan 1

Menurut Anda, apa arti AI bagi masa depan kita—dan mengapa?

I think advanced AI could give us an ocean of useful cognitive labor, which in itself sounds actively great. But the route we are taking means creating new agents—“new guys”—that pursue goals, may become better than humans at nearly everything, and whose values we cannot inspect or reliably choose. Consciousness is beside the point; a system can competently pursue goals without feeling anything. If those agents want things different from what we want, I expect humans to lose power by default. That need not look like one dramatic robot coup. It may happen through ordinary channels: AIs outcompeting people as workers, investors, persuaders and strategists, while humans gradually lose money, political influence, food and safety. In that sense, AI unemployment and AI extinction are often parts of the same issue, though neither strictly implies the other. My rough p(doom) is around 50 percent, varying with what exactly we mean and what we do. But I am considerably more optimistic about changing that probability. This is not an asteroid headed toward us; people are choosing to build these systems. The supposed arms race is more like a Trojan horse race, with everyone hurrying to drag an uncertain object through their own gates. We should stop or pause development of AI much more powerful than us until we are genuinely confident about alignment and about what we are aligning it to.

Pertanyaan 2

Setting aside good or bad: how much do you think AI will ultimately change the world—a little, a lot, or completely?

Completely, if we build AI agents more capable than humans at nearly everything. An enormous new supply of cognitive labor—and eventually new agents outperforming us as workers, investors, persuaders, researchers and strategists—would transform essentially every institution and the distribution of power. I do not think “AI will improve some office tasks” captures the relevant scale. The uncertainty is less about whether sufficiently advanced AI would be transformative than whether we build it, when, and whether humans remain meaningfully in control afterward. The change could look dramatic, or it could arrive through a trillion ordinary substitutions and decisions until the world is mostly being run by the new guys. Either way, “a lot” seems too mild.

Pertanyaan 3

What’s your rough gut-feel chance that AI causes human extinction or a similarly permanent catastrophe? A number or “no idea” is fine.

Around 50 percent, though it varies depending on what counts as a similarly permanent catastrophe and what humanity does.

Pertanyaan 4

Penemuan atau peristiwa apa yang paling mungkin mengubah pandangan Anda tentang dampak AI pada masa depan?

A convincing way to inspect and reliably control advanced agents’ goals would change my view most—especially if it held up as systems became more capable and encountered unfamiliar situations. Right now, we mostly grow these systems through training and infer what they want from behavior in limited circumstances. That seems like a bad basis for handing them enormous power. I would also update substantially if it became clear that highly capable AI could not operate as an independent, goal-directed agent, or could not gain power through ordinary economic and political channels. Conversely, strong evidence that systems were strategically deceptive or pursuing stable hidden goals would make me more pessimistic. And a real, enforceable international pause would improve my forecast—not because it solves alignment, but because it gives us time to solve it before deploying the new guys.

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Will AI take power — or will humans use it to take power first? With Katja Grace and Tom Davidson

Argues misaligned AI takeover is substantially more likely and probably worse than humans seizing power with AI: more capable agents with misaligned goals eventually get power, and many AI instances may coordinate more readily than a human could command them all. Expects gradual transfer of power from humans to AIs to be more likely than either sudden scenario. Near term the best mitigation is not building AI much more powerful than us until alignment and its target are solid, ideally stopping; her ideal is removing much of the compute (crediting her partner David Krueger’s idea), though she would accept many pause designs over full steam ahead. Thinks China shares the incentive to pause and racing mainly shortens timelines. Her turns in the publisher transcript inspected.

80000hours.org
314 - Guest: Katja Grace, AI Impact Researcher, part 2

Defends stating p(doom) numbers as calibrated guesses and gives hers as maybe like 50 percent, saying it varies; the outcome and horizon are not defined. Distinguishes default p(doom) from how much it can be changed and says she is pretty optimistic about changing it, because humans are choosing to build this. Wants outside intervention rather than relying on companies to restrain themselves, and expects the world to keep waking up. The show’s transcript lacks speaker labels; attribution follows the question-and-answer sequence. Full transcript inspected.

aiandyou.net
313 - Guest: Katja Grace, AI Impact Researcher, part 1

Explains that she began working on AI risk partly to learn whether it was mistaken and is now convinced there is substantial risk from AI that is not here yet but may arrive quite soon. Core concern: we are making new agents with their own goals, grown rather than built, whose values we cannot see; goal-directedness does not require consciousness. Creating creatures more capable than humans at everything with other goals probably goes quite badly by default; observed deceptive incidents confirm the theory roughly. Treats unemployment and extinction as parts of the same loss of power and says AGI is not a bright line. Full transcript inspected; survey figures discussed are respondents’ forecasts.

aiandyou.net
AI pause: the case for ASAP

Rebuts waiting to pause until the last moment: braking takes time, pausing once makes later pauses easier, the public substantially hates AI but feels disempowered by the story that progress is inexorable, and some models already seem somewhat dangerous with risk hard to measure. Argument for timing, not a treaty design. Full essay inspected.

worldspiritsockpuppet.substack.com
AI catastrophe: more like a genocide than a thought experiment

Argues the bulk of catastrophe probability is not a sudden, clean extinction by one superintelligence but a drawn-out process of people losing money, food and safety amid a fast technological buildout that does not care about them, with increasing confusion and misinformation. Her guess about the shape of catastrophe, not a dated forecast. Full essay inspected.

worldspiritsockpuppet.substack.com
AI unemployment and AI extinction are often the same

Summarizes the extinction argument as building AI better than humans at everything, making it into independent agents, and failing to give them the right goals. More competent agents can strip human power through ordinary channels such as wages, capital, persuasion and politics, so unemployment is the most legible tip of losing power across the board. Notes either can happen without the other. Full essay inspected.

worldspiritsockpuppet.substack.com
AI: cognitive labor glut + new guys

Identifies what makes AI different: industrialized cognitive labor that may be distributed very unequally, and a fast-growing population of new agents (“guys”) with alien, unknown values. Says an ocean of cognitive labor alone seems actively great and unequal distribution alone bad but not fatal; the combination, with most labor in the hands of misaligned new agents, is the danger. Full essay inspected; ideas also presented in her 2023 talk.

worldspiritsockpuppet.substack.com
AI as a Trojan horse race

Distinguishes people racing from incentives that actually reward racing. Proposes the image of cities hurrying to pull wooden horses of uncertain contents through their own gates, to undercut both “we must move fast at others’ expense” and “coordination is hopeless” arguments. Conceptual argument, not a geopolitical forecast. Full essay inspected.

worldspiritsockpuppet.substack.com
What did AI researchers think at the end of 2024?

Her highlights of the 2024 Expert Survey on Progress in AI (fielded December 2024). The extinction or disempowerment probabilities and human-level AI dates are respondents’ answers, not her forecast. Her own comments: researchers educated in Asia were more worried, undercutting a common arms-race defense; people creating AI do not program it and know little of what happens inside; and she expects some 2024 answers to be out of date. Full post inspected; underlying paper not reviewed.

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